while. he has money and organization. >> bill: that would give the election to barack obama. now rick santorum. it's mother matter. the senator obviously a mainstream candidate. he is conservative, but so what. he has taken newt gingrich, a lot of his votes have gone over to santorum. but you say, even if he wins iowa tomorrow, does second, really does well, he is not a factor, why? >> i won't say he is not a factor. look. what we have had is this rotating series of candidates who have occupied the non-romney lead. and rick santorum is basic lit one guy in the group who has never held that spot. and partly that's because, you know, his last election for a re-election to the senate he lost by a huge margin. and that obviously is a mark on your record when you are trying to move up in the