no, i do disagree profoundly with affirmative action agenda but i have argued african-american folks the schools i went to catholic schools were the first one to be did he segregated in d.c. this is the point, juan, they say you are racist. what railroads the what do you want done to him? folks will say, okay he called him a racist. are you a racist. ronald reagan was called that same name. you and i if we watched cable, we can people called that every day. >> shannon: no stranger to controversy. juan was let go from npr because of comment he made. the pope is calling artificial methods marriage is only place for conceiving a child.