this matter behind us. so it is kind of disengine with for them to say we didn't know and now hear they had a discussion with someone as to how they were collecting and how they would collect this information. yes? >> this is a prime example of google's culture of deception. they are secretive and very, very interested in publicity and good pr. and they like to say if something isn't found to be illegal, they like to chime in and say we did nothing illegal. everybody knows that is not necessarily true. the only reason the fcc could not find that they wiretapped is because going thel google pd their engineer and he plead the fifth not to incriminate himself. >> they said it was a rogue engineer and a lone guy doing this and then when the fcc wants to hear from him he