>> i am not sure that is real. you must like this. >> i love it. this is like bill's saturday night. build it now and pay later. we try to make these kids feel good about themselves. when they get out into the real world -- don't roll your eyes at me. >> please stop picking on bill. it is the dumbest idea because when they get out in the real world eventually they will pay for it. it is one of those ideas across the pond i hope never learns to swim. >> can i call you bernie? >> by all means. or better niece. >> that was my grandmother's name and she was a doll. is her desire to kill self-esteem killing society? >> no, it is good to feel good about yourself. if it was -- if it was a math