that's how you know him. >> i will have to call him karlos. >> if you call him knuck i won't. >> at 91 you have a lot of memories going on here. i want to focus on the three sons, because each of them brought something special to you. the one that we know. best and that is as we say chuck and karlos to you. he is your defender why? >> when we were hitting it so hard and having a hard time and we were very poor . he always was like the man in the house because his father was not there. and so he would, when i worked nights. he baby sat the kids. and so when we would figure out our bills and things to be paid. he would sit down together and see what we could pay. >> how old was he? 14. >> it was a lot of responsibility. >> uh-huh. >> and you call aaron your