found out about this in the news. i was watching the news report. this is what he said back by the way march 25 of 2011 den denying that he knew anything about it or that in fact eric holder knew anything about it. let's go to it the 7 month period this goes from may 3, 2011 to november 8, 2011 when the attorney general admitted that he misled congress. >> when did you first know about the program officially i believe called fast and furious to the best of your knowledge what date? >> i'm not sure of the exact date but i probably heard about fast and furious for the first time ove over the last few wee. >> i first learned about the tactics and the phrase operation fast and furious in the beginning of this year i think when it became a matter of i guess about public controversy. in my testimony before the house committee i did say a few weeks. i probably could have said a couple of months.