the taxation powers of the constitution. joining me now republican senator mike lee of utah, former law clerk for now supreme court justice samuel a hraoet too. alito. welcome back to the program. there was a split among conservatives, some defending chief justice roberts, saying he did write and opinion that reviewed to expand commerce powers. other folks are saying you're looking at the wrong sections of the opinion. if you look at what the court actually held, it is basically an expansive power without limit upped the taxation powers of the congress. >> that is exactly right, megyn, and that's why it's concerning to so many people who love liberty in america. people who understand that the government exists to serve the people, and not the other way around. this is yet another example of a supreme court facilitating the unfettered expansion of congress' power. congress was as you remember,