special correspondent kennedy went there to ask you with bankruptcy people like the cops and firefighters. >> they are heroes. who is to say what is too much? >> i don't blame anyone in particular. >> he is in the prison guards union making $66,000 per year before benefits. >> we give so much and it they don't get anything back >> we give it to the unions. absolutely. >> you pay the union dues and we pay for your pension. >> of course. john: of course, . with benefits is as close at $20,000 limit the firefighters salary has doubled now they make $150,000 per year.