in just a little while, the cardinal from france, who's actually a-- will be leading tonight. his name is john louis theron. he'll come to the curtain and he'll announce we have a pope and he'll introduce who the pope is and read the pope's first name in latin and from that we'll be able to figure out who the pope is. robert moynihan is with us, he's the founder of inside the vatican.com. sir, it's the moment that catholics have been waiting since we learned of the resignation of pope benedict xvi. the front runner, it was our understanding, would be the cardinal from milan. >> angelo scola has been considered the front runner, shep, we don't know. >> he was considered the front runner? >> that's right. if he comes out, it won't be a big surprise.