>> shepard: thanks, catherine. the surviving suspect, dzhokar tsarnaev just got a new attorney, month the defendants she had let represented. in the unibomber, ted kozinski, and jarred loughner who shot congresswoman gabrielle giffords in tucson. both killers were spared the death penalty and are serving life sentences instead. she's good. >> she is supposed to be good but she supposed to be really good at negotiating life sentences. not -- i'm sure she has trial experience, but she goes in there as the closer. she is going to try to save this kid's life, most likely in exchange for all of the information that he can possibly have to help us against any future terrorist attacks. >> shepard: is that process underway? >> it's got to be. especially since once this kid was mirandaizeed he shut up.