and hundreds what happen to you. but i don't know anyone that had it to your degree. when you heard about the loweris learner, what was your reaction? >> it was par for the course. when she announced she was going to retire, at lost she can't do anymore damage. but now i heard that she's being talked to about immunicipality and a package deal might look like for her, and if an arrangement can be made with immunity so she will talk about all of the things she knows and certainly to discuss just how far this goes, i think it would be worth immunity if we can talk to her to get to the bottom of what really happen. >> catherine, thank you and we are glad you got the status, thank you for coming back. >> thank you for having me. >> a chemical attack in syria