effective health care site. their solution, hire more bureaucrats. their solution is to start a new government agency dedicated to tech. >> we need a new government agency. we don't have enough of them frankly. this new government agency would be dispatched and dedicated to tech projects or a unit possibly within the gsa. the government tech specialists would train with the private sector contractors, which we know how well that worked in the obama care website buildup as well. that was a private contracted job as well. >> well, and it makes you wonder, you know, should it just be privatized anyway. who's been asked to come in and clean up all the mess? >> well, they say they won't do it. i have friends in the tech sector who have been asked to come in and help and they're like, are you kidding me? i am not going to do that where i can be entrepreneurial. i'm not going to the federal government and get involved in