they want to state pool. they want people to lose their coverage so they have to go into the exchange. >> reporter: because they need young and healthy to offset the older and sicker. >> they will be overcharged and those overcharges pay for the insurance for the sick, but the healthy get to keep insurance they already have and don't go into the exchange then the insurance and the exchanges becomes a small, very sick, very costly pool. >> reporter: and the smaller the pool, the greater the risk, with only about three weeks left, officials have far fewer than the 6 million to 7 million exchange signups they were looking for. >> we currently have over 4 million enrolled in the marketplace, and you may have seen the recent blog or report about 8.9 million in medicaid. >> reporter: president obama erroneously told a group that all those signing up for medicaid, health care for the poor, are are getting care for the first time, but other officials gently corrected that. >> if you read some of the other reports somewhere probably between 2.5 and 3.5 are new