way, is making money of themselves -- making fun of themselves. they're the ones making these movies. it isn't tyler perry they're ridiculing, they're ridiculing themselves. martha: we're going to have to leave it there. interesting take, kevin, and good to have both of you with us, kevin and leslie. this one's not going away with bigger issues about our privacy we mails and health records and all of that as it gets bigger and bigger. thanks, you guys. >> thanks. bill: back to breaking news, london, west of london, anyway, this is what the air space looks like over central london. very few planes because a computer glitch apparently is preventing air space from being flown over in london. you imagine that in new york city? martha: no. bill: newark, jfk and laguardia, it would be a downright mess, and apparently it's a mess too for the folks in london. some are reporting that this will stay the way it is for, well, the foreseeable future. we're trying to figure out a time, whether that's minutes or hours from now, but we'll be