dog democrat and put veteran at center of health care. give veteran a choice. hold the va accountable. compete for customers, not take them for granted. this is familiar themes, andrea. >> familiar theme. we talked about this before pete republicans and democrats on capitol hill are both at fault with the va. >> that's right. >> they sit behind closed-door meetings, it is money. on the surface we care about veterans but there is no motivation for hospitals to do better there is no choice in competition. there should be vouchers for veterans to go to different hospitals. they get wall street money to fund charter schools. get wall street money for veterans hospitals? >> fantastic idea. first time someone suggested maybe having a privatized element and infusion of private money into the -- >> very quickly pete, i want to ask you though you talk to veterans every day. what are they saying about the head of the va lying about his service? because i mean i can getup set