they have a wax over them they have to work the balls. i don't agree with tom brady not knowing that the ball was deflated. that quarterback touches those balls. he's feeling those all week. he has to know that the ball is deflated. >> he has to be complicit in it does he not, peter? >> there are text messages exchanged about the psi levels in the ball with the equipment managers. going around an nfl locker room the equipment managers are very valued to these quarterbacks. it's almost like their best friends in there. they are the ones handling those footballs. in the mid-2000s, peyton manning and tom brady said this is something we wanted. >> why wouldn't the nfl say, sorry, like every other major sport, you can't bring your point? >> that's just it. >> fair enough. i don't disagree they shouldn't. i'm in the camp that says you can inflate the ball as much as you want or don't want. but don't complain about it in the aftermath. >> i agree. i think the big deal is the