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the scene here on buses, septa buses. there are police officers on there, other police and fire personnel. several buses were headed to the scene as we came up again with police officers on board. with septa personnel. everybody trying to help out here on the scene. and lend whatever hand they can, we are about a block and a half from the actual derailment scene. can't see much past the police line right here lots of personnel, lots of heavy equipment, lots of firefighting equipment, up and down this entire block here. >> you know, dave, bruce has been on the phone, and he's been on the scene there, not far from you, i guess, he's mentioned he's never seen anything like this response in all of his years in philadelphia. i know you've been around for a long time and can you give us your insight as to the magnitude of what you're seeing out there? >> well let me say this the closest thing to this recently was the building collapse on market street at 22nd and market

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