sometimes they take advantage of that. >> this is the beautiful bay they are worried about. i assume pebble mine was right next to the bay. no. it turns out it is 90 miles away, the distance between baltimore and philadelphia. >> it is frustrating for me for someone that does not live here come in here and dictate and tell us what we cannot do. because we live here. you are oo you are just wrecking poor people's lives. this would create jobs? >> krewe created 50000 new jobs putting upwind turbines solar panels and energy efficient cars. >> you also need copper and gold. those are jobs too. >> that's right. we have to weigh those risks. >> there are some mines where nrdc says great, go ahead. >> it is not -- is there any? >> it's not up to us to green light mines. >> is there any you don't complain about? >> oh, yeah sure. >> we asked him for some names.