>> bret: so the treasury secretary was peppered with questions about that. here is one of his answers. >> this will pay for itself with growth, and with reduced reduction of different deductions, and closing loopholes. this plan is going to lower the debt to gdp. the economic plan under trump will grow the economy and will create massive amounts of revenues, trillions of dollars in additional revenues. >> bret: so we've heard, maya before that growth will take care of it, and it just comes down to the numbers, does it add up at the end? >> yeah, so let's start with the end. let's set a fiscal goal where this administration wants to be ten years from now, whether it is balancing the budget or getting the debt lower, the share of gdp, which would be a great start, put it on a downward path so the economy will be growing faster than the debt. let's pick that goal and develop a whole comprehensive plan to get us there. but right now, for many months,