♪ jesse: earlier this week the president signed a bill expanding benefits to our veterans and hold toking v.a. employees -- holding v.a. employees accountable for behaving badly. that's great news. but it was overshadowed by the violence in charlottesville. veterans affairs secretary david shulkin, who is jewish, offered his opinionen the controversy regard -- opinion on the atrophies regarding president trump's comments. >> i think he can speak for himself. i do feel as a american and is as a member of the cabinet that i can speak for my own personal opinions on this, and i am outraged by the behavior that i've seen with the nazis and the white supremacists. jesse: secretary shulkin joins me now. so, secretary, as someone that represents and works with a lot of veterans, how do you feel personally about some of these confederate war monuments being