manafort never should have taken the job in the first place. this goes back to 2014. lots of business dealings. if it's not fisa, it's fara. if i walk into a bar in the bar is being surveilled, does that mean i am being surveilled? i think manafort was very -- he did it for no pay. it was very irresponsible. if they were wiretapping manafort inappropriately, fine. >> kennedy: but when is it appropriate? if you haven't done anything wrong, you can still be caught up. that's very problematic. >> kimberly: what dana said -- what we've been saying is manafort -- what his business dealings and interactions were. and he improperly disclosed some of those and put the president and what has turned out to be a