balances ever. of course, mr. chairman, you know you can't start paying down the $18 trillion of debt that we have with another $100 trillion on the other way until you first come to balance. we do that in a responsible hopb nest way. we do it in a responsible logical ten year window. >> dana: i was following all of that. that was in the obama administration. this budget the president is putting forward also doesn't balance. how have the economics changed your viewpoint on supporting this type of budget? >> well, hey, i think that's a great segment, a great question. here's the big difference. with the president's budget request is doing here is going after the real drivers of our debt. that's the mandatory spending. he's doing it in a very humane way. the obama budget that i was talking about before never touched medicare, snap. excuse me, medicade, tan and snap, other welfare programs. this one does. $1.7 trillion worth in the first ten years alone. that's a trade i'll take every