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Balances ever. of course, mr. chairman, you know you can't start paying down the $18 trillion of debt that we have with another $100 trillion on the other way until you first come to balance. we do that in a responsible hopb nest way. we do it in a responsible logical ten year window. >> dana: i was following all of that. that was in the obama administration. this budget the president is putting forward also doesn't balance. how have the economics changed your viewpoint on supporting this type of budget? >> well, hey, i think that's a great segment, a great question. here's the big difference....

That's going on. and so we think about what's happening, house republicans who have called for years and years for a balanced budget that controls spending and gets the debt under control are on the verge of passing a budget that doesn't balance, that out of $47 trillion in spending, aspires to save $1 billion, and that adds to the national debt. it's a joke. it is a laugh line. and they're about to accept that which means they will be walking away from the mantle of fiscal responsibility. senator corker said we can look forward and look at tax reform and figure out how to make it pro-growth a...

>> people see me as someone willing to stand up to leadership when leadership is wrong. i stood on the floor of the senate for 10 1/2 hours and filibustered against them collecting our phone records. i stood on the floor for 13 1/2 hours and said i think it's important that the president acknowledge that he's not going to kill u.s. citizens without any kind of due process, without a trial. so i think i am seen as someone who is willing to stand up on principle and stand against the tide. i've never voted for any of the funding bills for any budget that doesn't balance. >> the former texas gove...

Doesn't balance. but it doesn't invest in the future. you're with young people right now, programs with with stephen is talking about, yes, we code and sister code, all of that is the future and that unfortunately is not the future reflected in the republican budget. >> let's talk about one of the other big issues that has effected detroit since the economic collapse and hitting hard among homeowners. you were an author of the tax act in 2007 and you are seeking to extend it through 2017. let's talk about the ideas in it. you have 24% of metro homes under water and 47% in default and headed to...

>> well, i thought it very intriguing in that the budget really lays out kind of a shocking attack on seniors, if you will. we haven't seen all the detail yet, we'll look at it, but i'll tell you when you're going after seniors the way he's already done on obama care, taken $700 billion out of medicare to put into obama care and now coming back at seniors again, i think you're crossing that line very quickly here in terms of denying access to seniors for health care in districts like mine certainly and around the country. i think he's going to have a lot of pushback from some of the major seni...