culture comes down on you. those stock options you might have earned goes out the door. ed: have all these folks on the left attack the president. root out leakers this is totalitarian. a lot of these tech folks out in california and elsewhere have been a lot more ruthless. facebook and apple as i understand. they have been ruthless about leaks. >> you know, they are incredibly ruthless because the fact of the matter is inside of the culture they share an extraordinary amount of information with each other. for whatever reach it doesn't get out there. that's because you really get in a lot of trouble and that whole saying that they have in hollywood is even worse in silicon valley, which is you will never work in this town again. boy, you take out a secret or you leak anything of technology at a silicon valley and can you kit your job there goodbye. ed: what's the prime example? >> you know what? 16,000 employees tune in to him every friday.