i say reported to the police. most don't want to. what's their next option? go to a civil lawyer. that's what donald trump did. he went to an attorney. he could have given her cash. he could have paid her off. he went to an attorney and said fix this legally. this is on michael cohen. >> juan: legally? >> pam: you can sign a nondisclosure. this happens all the time in the real business world. you can sign a nondisclosure. you can make a payment. >> dana: campaign money? >> pam: no, but that's it. >> juan: that's the problem. >> pam: it's where the money came from. that is on the lawyer. a bad lawyer does not equal -- that's what he went to his lawyer. >> juan: what we have a tape in which the president is discussing this with michael cohen. >> pam: : should have told him you cannot use campaign funds. >> jesse: they thought you were on one of those tapes. >> pam: isn't it funny?