who he called the rest of the pack. cuomo, mcauliffe, bloomberg, who now said he will be democratic from here on out. i guess avenatti. i'm gonna cross that one off the list. oprah. then unknown. george will wrote over the weekend don't write off john delaney out of maryland. >> right. a house member. i was going to add one more name. that's tom steyer who's been reportedly the liberal environmentalist donor who is apparently organizing. >> dana: have you met howard schultz of starbucks? >> possibly. this is sort of a wide open field. not just because of what happened in 2016. i think everybody's thrown out the idea of what the political play book ought to look like. it is a wide open field on the democratic side. there's no heir apparent. everybody is jockeying. why not see who is very popular?