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>> they were a bunch of old men and one followed another to the grave. bret: then gorbachev comes into the picture who is different. in reagan's eyes and the eyes of the world. >> absolutely. you cannot overstate how different mikhail gorbachev was from the russian leaders that had preceded him. there was a sense of a new soviet leader and new possibilities for engagement. bret: gorbachev launched efforts to reform the soviet union to make it more open. perestroika and glasnost. when he agreed to meet reagan in geneva, switzerland in november 1985, the world didn't know what to expect. >> how is the press coverage of that considering all the anti-communists and evil empire stuff up until then. >> there was a sense that the soviets were on the offensive and questions about whether the united states could respond.

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