to be spent on security measures that will make a difference. lawmakers were clearly feeling the pressure hearing about the impact of the partial shutdown for constituents and seeking a way out. >> the real ramifications of the shutdown are starting to be seen, it's not an aggregating effect -- i think you'll see a cascading effect. >> a homeland security spokeswoman said backpay should start flowing between 2-3 business days. if the advice with employees is to check with your bosses. >> bret: mike emanuel life on the hill. we'll bring in our panel to deal with the news of this day, byron york chief political correspondent of the "washington examiner," josh crush, and matthew continetti editor in chief of "the washington free beacon." your thoughts, it doesn't seem like this is any different from what was on the table a while