domination and control. we are born free and we will stay free. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [chanting u.s.a.] >> martha: scowling at those comments as did alexandria ocasio-cortez. even chuck schumer seemed to leave the door a little bit open on this general idea when pressed. >> do you support measure capitalism and do you think american capitalism is worth defending and fighting for? >> okay the answer is we are a capitalist country, yes. you have to work with capitalism. that doesn't mean you shouldn't make it better. >> martha: okay. see what you think about that up to interpretation. joining me now is bill bennett former education secretary and fox news contributor and host of the bill bennett podcast. bill, good evening. always good to have you with us on this story. i thought senator schumer seemed pretty clear on that.