looking african-americans in the eye because i haven't supported slavery or jim crow and or treat each person as an individual, so i don't bear any guilt for this. i don't. but you seem to think i do, why? >> i'm not saying you should feel guilty, you should feel a responsibility as i do, as all of us do. 250 years of slavery and the next 150 years and we are still involved in this and it was only about 40 or 50 years ago that we witnessed the end of the jim crow laws. that came after 100 years of struggle after that. do you really believe that just based on what the great accomplishments we've been able to make in this nation in the last 30 years, that that adequately redresses the debt that we have all inherited? uncompensated labor. >> tucker: i don't -- and i think we are living of the effects of our history. there's no question, i would not deny that.