deficit. so i think the optimal result may be on both sides. if you look what happens in november, you let that shake out and maybe there's some room for compromise here on some sort of extension for the upper earners. >> peggy, you were talking in your column today in the "wall street journal" about how democrats are tired. they're exhausted. it sounds kind of a queue in to what esra was saying, do something, i don't care what, do something, lean forward. >> i don't gather a lot between now and november second, i don't gather a lot will happen on capitol hill. my curiosity, ezra is when you go into america and you look at politics and what's happening now and who is having rallies, et cetera, else, i can see what the republicans are up to. there's lots of energy, et cetera. where are the democrats? that is my question on the ground in america.