came out and beat hillary clinton in iowa by being anti-iraq. >> mike barnicle, i was watching "meet the press" from a pretty good seat and i saw joe biden talking to david gregory, a great interview. and he has, in effect, been the president's up front chief of staff, even though david will tell you he doesn't like talking about himself much. that was quite an interview -- both of us -- that was quite an interview. and joe said, yes, i'm the guy. i'm the guy that did it. >> i think an interesting dynamic in washington is the enormous juice that the vice president has within this administration. but back to mitt romney where you began here, one of the things that is critical to any campaign, we all know this, is the ability to raise money. again, if unemployment is at 10% and given this administration's behavior and badmouthing of big