saw in that compilation of jesse's dirty work. >> that's right. and all i was doing was i just wanted to ask him what he thought about media matters reports, and his response was mainly to belittle me and ignore the substantive issue of what he thought about this insider saying that fox news makes stuff up. and so i mean it really wasn't an ambush. i wasn't ambushing jesse waters. there were hundreds of reporters at cpac that day. i wasn't following him anywhere. it wasn't premeditated. i happened to see him walking around, thought maybe i'll ask a fox news employee what he thinks about this story. >> the report you're talking about about the fox insider says a lot more than they make stuff up. it goes on in great detail in quotes to describe their work process, and how the message is delivered to deliver at that network the conservative message, the republican party