medicare and medicaid alone. mr. steele. >> yeah. >> do you agree or disagree with the american people because the republicans have voted on exactly the opposite of where the people are? >> well, i think -- i have seen polling going the other way on this and this is an interesting point that i think is really going to be a dynamic that is going to get played out over the next few weeks. >> what poll have you seen -- >> no, no. my point is -- >> that says the american people want to get rid of medicare. >> no, not getting rid of. that reform or changes to or cuts to depending on the language and the wording of the poll. >> okay. >> you have people agreeing with that sentiment as well. >> let me ask you. >> yep. >> do you think the american people want a voucher program for medicare? >> i think that's a conversation we need to have. this is the point. wait a minute. >> no. it's not a conversation. respectfully, wait a minute. it's not a conversation because the republicans have voted on it, mr. steele. >> wait a minute. okay ed, what the republicans