you have said in recent days mr. cain's 9-9-9 plan would be a heard sell than he let's on. how so? >> you just watched it. >> well, josh, you first this time. brother, can you spare me a nine? i mean, this -- this thing here, brother, i mean, are they cuss kissen cousins or what the? he didn't say bro at least? what's this brother thing all about? >> all sorts of plans with herman cain, i don't know where that came from, but i sympathize with these other candidates though because they were coming at cain with hard numbers that are just irrefutable and herman cain up there who -- who sort of slips through now as still kind of a novelty candidate, and he's up there saying, you know, that's an orange, that's an apple and the rest of them are sort of like what do i do with that? >> i'll tell you what you do with it, in washington we pay 6% sales tax, add 9 on to that, 15%. that's not apples and oranges. it's one added to one already,