on power through gerrymandering. >> i was going to ask you -- let me ask you, do you think there's any pressure on governor brewer from republican leaders in washington who were damned and determined to hold the house in this next election? >> oh, absolutely. we know up front the people in our congressional delegation, congressman quayle and others, congressman quayle's mother, they were all calling governor brewer and saying that she has to call this special session. they were all calling the state legislators, and you had a lot of folks doing what they knew was wrong to take this independent citizen volunteer and throw her out of office, accusing her of gross misconduct in office, when she has done nothing anywhere close to that. and this is about whether we're going to be a nation of laws, whether we're going to have competitive districts that actually give people the right to vote and the right to fair representation. that's what's at stake right now. i hope people get involved in this fight. >> andrei, i think you'll run for senate some day. you are a passionate fellow. we love having you on.