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renting. if poor people can't afford housing services they need then that's an income transfer payment. we should give them cash. when we tried to get into this complicated housing market and fiddle and adjust and prop up and mitigate, we simply make a lot of windfall profits for automatic kinds of housing than rates. >> ron paul beaming momentarily into the body. >> a lot of what you are describing is something that actually economists are suggesting like making it's easier for banks to turn homes that they -- foreclosing on. i was going to say occupy. that's another -- turning those into rentals. that's what you are talking abo about. >> banks can do that if they wanted to. what he is talking about subsidize the banks for now. we don't need to do that. >> but public housing which was the housing for people on the brink of homelessness and was

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