signed pledges, no new taxes. no new taxes. so they won't vote for them and they have the majority. >> josh? >> i this the reason the carried interest tax treatment survives is that it's actually not that large a tax issue in the big picture. >> sure. >> you say why can't we have a good tax policy, why can't we tax carried interest properly? it will raise an extra $2 billion, $3 billion a year. we're left with a $497 billion deficit. >> but of course, the reason i raise it, it's low-hanging fruit. the point is, fine, yes, does it solve the federal deficit? no. >> about who pays for elections. let's be fair. >> thank you, heather. i've been leading everybody to the water but nobody wanted to take a drink. >> we're talking about democracy now. >> the link, my organization was founded on the link between political inequality and economic inequality. we are sitting here at the absolute pinnacle of seeing how every single time there is a policy that advantages basically the top 1% of the 1%, which is