respondents of the poll want an immediate withdrawal, rapid withdrawal, could you please talk to the -- just the logistical element of withdrawing 90,000 troops from a hostile environment. it can't be done more quickly than 12 months at a minimum, don't you think? >> mike, that probably is true just in terms of physical logistics. the pakistanis have closed the two border access points that we used for land transport into afghanistan. amazingly military in afghanistan have thmanaged to kp our troops supplied with food, fuel, and all the other things you need for combat operations through the northern distribution route. the big problem i'm told is getting stuff out. we have ten years worth of hardware that's accumulated in afghanistan, which we would like to begin moving out already. and that's impossible while the roads are closed. so getting the stuff out isn't