civilizations. they had a swastika in persia way before national socialism came along. >> while rat cliff defended asatru, his comments disturbed murray who let him know how much when he returned to his cell. >> you just made us look like a bunch of [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> damn it, i tried to talk to you about this, i swear i did. sorry, markus. i [ bleep ] up. sorry. i apologize. d damn it. try not to get mad at me, man. you sank my boat. >> later we told murray we recorded his exchange with ratliff and asked him to explain it. >> i was a little mad. he didn't mean any harm. he just -- just ignorant of the conduction of leadership roles