paterno for decades having a very difficult time now understanding this latest news. >> absolutely, michael. the disclosures relating to paterno were the news in this freeh report. paterno knew is the headline there. he knew about 1998. he followed the investigation into 1998. he was kept apprised of it. and then when it comes to 2001, he was more involved than he had acknowledged. so the significance of 1998 is it cast a whole new light on the events that mcqueary initiated in 2001 when he goes to see paterno and tells him about what he had seen in the shower. it's the second huge red flag and in both cases penn state officials, including paterno, covered it up and i think that's what's so disturbing here and so