spirit of 2012, which is a much more smash mouth kind of politics we saw in 2008, in some way joe biden is better suited to this than either mitt romney or barack obama. he can deliver a punch to the gut and kind of prop you back up and smile at you and make you feel okay after he does it. he's very tough. of all four of the guys on the ticket, romney, ryan, biden, he's the only one in a speaks the language of populism. he always has. he has the working class, scranton pennsylvania, he talks to voters better than anyone else. >> isn't it something when vice presidential candidates -- he comes from a working class area in wisconsin, a swing area.