the hospital. do these things matter, can they help? >> they helped tremendously. we met separately with the president and first lady. i was already down at the mchale center was suzie was visited in the hospital, but the most poignant element she describes is mrs. obama sitting down on the bed next to her and they started to talk about christina and what kind of a child she was and suzie absolutely got lost in the emotion of it and mrs. obama literally took her in her arms and said go ahead and cry it out, that she had all the time that was needed. they were incredibly warm and nurturing, and it was -- we always have felt it was almost the beginning of our therapy in trying to learn to cope with this. >> well, it is left to the president to do this again sadly. bill he heilemann. thank you so much. thanks to your wife and the