he has a lot coming up in the next few months. if he can come out looking like a leader, i think that will say a lot. i think it is all about time. we can say he got us through these really difficult times. >> he looks like a leader to me. already, john boehner can't even lead his own caucus. >> let me say, abbey, thank you for showing up tonight. you're a good sport. and tell chris matthews, take me with him to mount rushmore. i would love to see the pictures of chris walking around mount rushmore. thank you for your time, tonight, have a great evening. >> up next, first right wingers had a problem with sponge bob square pants, but you won't believe when they're accusing of a liberal agenda next. ♪