dorner and we see similar things with suicide terrorists. there's a big difference between the tiny percentage of terrorists who blow themselves up for the cause. they are suicidal. and the much larger pool of regular terrorists who are willing to fight, who are willing to risk their lives, who do want fame and glory and also value surviving and hope that they fight, win and live. >> and i read that you've said that there's a computer test that can immediately determine whether someone is suicidal or not. that seems a little hard to believe. is that true? >> yeah. well, i guess what i'd say is you're right and advanced technology always seems a little hard to believe ahead of time and then we become accustomed to it and accept it. this is technology in the testing phases and already remarkable at exposing racial bias, gender bias, things that -- biases that people want