everything but use the name of your opponent. >> right. you can do all of that. but you hide the names of donors. it's a way to funnel money, launder money, hide money. this is a problem. >> by the way -- >> this is not healthy for american democracy. >> the city we live in, sam stein, is packed with so-called -- what do you call them? think tanks. every one of them with dedicated senior fellow this, senior fellow that. just to push a political argument. i mean, it's all over this town. all -- >> you know -- >> the problem with this as chuck alluded to is that instead of going after the big fish, which there might have been reason to do for the irs, they went after the little guys. they ended up making this process incredibly problematic and burdensome for mom and pop shops so to speak. that's one major problem. the other one you have to understand the political climate in 2010-2011 was a lot different than it was now. there were several democratic senators begging the irs practically to go after conservative 501 c 4 groups
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