solution. the second war is to deal with the radical islamists who have flown in to aid the rebels. unfortunately you're going to have two wars. when assad falls, you'll have the war between the average syrian and al qaeda elements who have come into syria. here's the good news, david. i don't think the average syrian wants to displace assad and have an al qaeda state to replace him. these radical islamists are coming to the fight because of a security backing. they in my view do not represent the average syrian person. hezbollah, neither does al qaeda represent the average syrian. that's the good news. but they have to be fought. >> i just got a couple minutes left, senator. on a couple of other matters, edward snowden. is he a traitor in your mind and what would you like to see the administration do at this point to bring him back to face justice? >> bring him to justice and let a prosecutor make that decision, not a politician. i think what he did compromised our national security. i've got a very simple view of the world, and you can blame me for being simple in complex