waiting for an appeals court to deal with that. it could happen. it wouldn't necessarily happen just at the moment of him discovering that he has been found guilty. >> right now the point we are at it is for the jury. we don't know, i mean i think we had sort of an anticipation kerry and i don't know what the feeling was inside the courthouse that maybe they would come back with the question fairly quickly but they didn't. >> i think, though, what we can sort of draw some sort of conclusion here that at 12 hours they are working towards a verdict. whether they going to reach it tonight i don't know. they work at their own discretion. the judge allows them to go as late as they want and if they decide tomorrow they want to take off tomorrow they can do that. or they can come back tomorrow if they need to. the judge has been very