under and that's the question really, is was there a quid pro quo. >> okay. . i would just think, i don't want to get into a federalism thing here, but if the bribery -- alleged bribery was committed in the state of virginia, with a state candidate, again, i'm not exactly sure why the feds would come in if -- again, this is legal under virginia state law. >> it's not clear what they got. they just gave him things. is there any evidence that he gave them anything in return? >> that's the question. all right. john harris, thank you so much. >> see you, joe. >> we've got civil procedure 101 at 10:15. what i'm saying, if it's virginia law, and it's their disclosure laws and they say you can get a rolex, spaceship, whatever you want to get and we're not going to -- you don't have to report it i'm not sure why the feds come in and investigate him for that. >> was there a potential it