community and you used to go sit behind the desk and dream. >> yes. well, you know, i grew up in lansing, michigan. my father worked for general motors for 30 years. my mom worked at the school calf ti cafeteria and i didn't know african-americans could own businesses. so it was two black businessmen in lansing, michigan. joe ferguson and greg eaton who own dealerships and buildings and i was like, i want to be like them. so i got bold one day and i said, look, i want to be like you guys and will you give me a job? and will you mentor me? they decided to mentor me and the first thing did was gave me a job to clean this office building that had seven floors. so i was about 15, 16 years old, so i would go clean the first six floors, but on the seventh floor, that's where the ceo's office was. so i would bust in and pretend